7. Plaid Cymru Debate: Workers' Rights

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:07 pm on 1 May 2019.

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Photo of Helen Mary Jones Helen Mary Jones Plaid Cymru 5:07, 1 May 2019

I'm very grateful for the opportunity to take part in this important event, this important debate. It's great for us all as a Senedd to be able to celebrate International Workers' Day, and we do this, of course, in the context of a very moving statement from Mick Antoniw, remembering that Sunday was Workers' Memorial Day.

Now, Mick reminded us of the theme of that day, which is to remember the dead and fight for the living. And I want to focus on my disappointment in the way that the Government has chosen to amend this motion with regard to zero-hours contracts. Most people on zero-hours contracts don't want to be on zero-hours contracts, and I just want to give a few facts from research that's been published in February this year by the Trades Union Congress. People on zero-hours contracts are more than twice as likely to work night shifts, and are paid a third less an hour on average than other workers. The median hourly pay before tax for someone on a zero-hours contract was £7.70, compared to £11.80 for other workers. Again, 23 per cent of zero-hours contracts have compulsory night work.

Now, the thing about a zero-hours contract, as opposed to a flexible working relationship, is that all the power is in the hands of the employer. How are people expected to live when they do not know from one week to the next how many hours they're going to work? Flexible working does work for some people, but a zero-hours contract is not flexible working, and we've got into the habit—and I'm afraid we saw this a little bit with Russell George—of using these interchangeably. And it's not the same thing. Flexible contracts give equal power to the worker and to the employer; zero-hours contracts, all the power sits in the hands of the employer, and that isn't fair.

So, our original motion says this—clause 4

'Calls on the Welsh Government to ban the use of zero hours contracts in all devolved Welsh public services and associated supply chains'.

The amendment says—it

'Welcomes the actions developed through social partnership by the Welsh Government to eliminate exploitative zero hours contracts in Wales and the work it has done through the Code of Practice'.

Well, that implies that there's such a thing as a zero-hours contract that isn't exploitative, and nobody on these benches here believes that that is true. Zero-hours contracts are a nasty American import that we should not have here in any of the countries in those islands, and certainly not here in Wales. [Interruption.] I'm very sorry, I didn't see. Mick.