Rural Public Transport in Carmarthenshire

Part of 1. Questions to the Minister for Economy and Transport – in the Senedd at 1:31 pm on 8 May 2019.

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Photo of Ken Skates Ken Skates Labour 1:31, 8 May 2019

Can I thank the Member for what is an incredibly important question? For many people, bus services, and transport as a whole, is the number one challenge that they face in accessing services, in accessing leisure opportunities and, most significantly of all in many areas, in accessing work. And I've said in this Chamber before that there are some parts of Wales where as many as 20 per cent of people cannot afford or secure a means of getting to their job interviews, never mind getting to work. They are essentially locked out of the workplace. And, therefore, the radical reforms that we are proposing to local bus services are absolutely vital. We've published the White Paper. I know that there has been an excellent response to the consultation, which ended on 27 March. And I would agree entirely with the Member that the focus cannot solely be on urban areas where the mass of population lives, and must equally be on solutions for more rural areas. And I'm pleased that we recently announced four pilot schemes, including one in west Wales, to examine the potential for the deployment of demand-responsive transport—as some have put it, the 'uberisation' of bus services, albeit with an injection of soul. And I think what's going to be important in those pilots is that we're going to be able to test a new means of meeting passenger demand, but a means that is as affordable, potentially even less expensive to the taxpayer in terms of subsidies than conventional forms of bus services and scheduled bus services.

Now, whilst this pilot in the west of Wales and the other three pilots are taking place, we are, of course, operating a series of TrawsCymru services, and I was pleased that, just yesterday, we commenced a new TrawsCymru route in west Wales, linking Fishguard with St David's, Haverfordwest, on the T11 route. But I'm keen to make sure that, through reforms, through better using the public subsidy, we see more bus services respond to passenger demands across all communities—urban and rural.