Thank you very much for those comments. I don't think it's fair to say that we haven't seen action in recent years. I think we have seen action and we've seen a significant amount of money for a number of years from successive Welsh Governments in this agenda. But I think, as the evidence to the committee demonstrated, it's making sure the underpinnings are correct, so that the money is going to be well spent to most effect. I think that's what I hope today's statement is going to address—getting that right.

Because I'm not going to be making a case to the finance Minister or the Minister for the economy alongside me to pour money into a sieve of poorly designed schemes. Because the trouble with a poorly designed path is it discredits the whole agenda. If councils are building paths—for example, next to a road—that are badly designed, the disruption is going to alienate people as it's built, and when they see nobody on these paths, they're simply going to say, 'Well, what was the point of that? What a waste of money. What's this active travel all about?'

I've seen that happen time and again, which is why it's essential that it's no good just having the guidance; we have to train the depleted ranks of local authorities to use it properly and also work with them to collaborate, so there is genuine regional working in this area. That's one of the things that the Minister and I will be considering as he takes forward the recommendations of the White Paper: as we create regional bodies, do we put active travel as part of their core functions? Because clearly there are enormous benefits to the economies of scale.

And what is the role for Transport for Wales in this as well? So, to address his final point on monitoring evaluation, we have had discussions already. I met yesterday with the head of Transport for Wales to discuss this—as they start to build up their own intelligence and data analysis unit, how they can make sure that capturing active travel data is a key part of what they do, and capture the useful data we want to enable us to make better decisions. 

In terms of the quantum of funding, we are some way off the £30 a head. I think today's announcement takes us to somewhere around £10 million a head for this year—£10 per head, sorry, this year; £10 million a head would be quite a stretch, wouldn't it—£10 a head this year. But as I say, I want us to make sure we get it right, so next time around we have integrated network maps that create routes based on demand of people who want to walk and cycle. If we can start to engage the community and enthuse them for where routes should be, then I think we can create a head of steam that will allow the political space for us to say, 'We want to spend more on this agenda', and I can credibly go to ministerial colleagues and say, 'Money should be spent on this and not on something else.' I'm not sure, with a good heart, I could do that at the moment, because I'm not confident that that money will be spent to best effect until the issues I've addressed in the statement can be properly worked through. 

In terms of the Wales transport strategy, clearly this is going to be an important part of it, but my observations of previous Wales transport strategies is we've been fine on the words around active travel. I often used to notice—some years ago now, 10 years ago or more—we'd have a Wales transport strategy that if you were coming from a different planet and just read the narrative you'd think Wales was an active travel country because the words were all there, but if you looked at the scheme of works at the end, it was all the traditional stuff you saw, there was very little active travel. So, I'm confident that active travel will be a key part of it, as it always has been. What needs to happen next time is that it's a key part of the delivery as well. And that's, if we follow through the things we've announced today, what I think we'll be able to address.