Part of 3. Topical Questions – in the Senedd at 3:59 pm on 15 May 2019.
I thank Jack Sargeant for flying the flag today with a concrete example of how this legislation is being used by Coleg Cambria and how—. These are early days, and we need these examples of case studies of how the public sector is embracing this. I said I'd met with the third sector today. They are embracing it; they see that, particularly in terms of the five ways of working, involvement and engagement is crucial. We know that we haven't done enough of that in terms of getting people's views. So, it is also very important to recognise that people outside of Wales are looking at this legislation, and certainly they will be expecting us, who passed this legislation through this National Assembly, to stand up for it. So, there may be a private Member's Bill being considered by Lord Bird of The Big Issue, a Member in Westminster. The New Zealand Government sending a delegation to Cardiff to learn more about the innovative Welsh model, Sophie Howe being at the World Government Summit talking about this, and, indeed, Eluned Morgan, Minister for International Affairs and the Welsh Language, in the UN in New York speaking about the well-being of future generations—isn't the Assembly proud of that? But, clearly, we have got to demonstrate the impact of it on the ground here in Wales in our public bodies and in our communities.