Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:25 pm on 5 June 2019.
Delyth Jewell opened her speech with the words that people have a strong feeling they are right on this topic. One of the things I'd say is that, from my point of view, there's a very clear and answerable economic question and a security question about the European Union—that 'remain' is best. But you could also say that the question of power distance, and the question of the democratic deficit of the structures of the European Union, are not answered, and therefore you can say that there is—. You cannot say that everyone who argues for 'leave' is unquestionably wrong. I think the question is to what extent you're balancing the economic and the security case against the case of the democratic deficit and power distance.