Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:43 pm on 25 June 2019.
I understand the quasi-judicial hoops that the Welsh Government had to jump through in order to arrive at its decision, which would have made it very difficult to have a plan B up its sleeve, because that would have been seen as prejudicing the decision that the First Minister has made. So, I disagree with Rhun ap Iorwerth that we, somehow, have to convert this whole problem into a new transport system for Wales. We do need, obviously, a refreshed transport system for Wales, but we do need to focus on the here and now in relation to the congestion we have around Newport. And I listened very carefully to the problems that Jayne Bryant described, and I’ve experienced them myself. I wouldn’t want to live just near that motorway—