4. Statement by the First Minister: Social Partnership

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:56 pm on 9 July 2019.

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Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 3:56, 9 July 2019

I thank Dawn Bowden for those questions. When I said in my original statement that I sometimes say on public platforms that social partnership is not an easy way of doing things, it's often Dawn's name that comes into my mind, having worked with her when I was health Minister and she represented Unison. I can tell you that those meetings are the opposite of cosy or collusive, but they do the hard work, and that's what you expect them to do. They are places where difficult conversations are had and messages are never pulled by those who deliver them, but they are delivered in a way that has the end point of creating an agreement, sometimes over very challenging issues, which everybody in the end is able to sign up to. I thank her both for that previous experience and for the way that she contributes to this Assembly from that experience.

Of course, the Fair Work Commission's report draws on the work of the IMF, of the World Bank, of the ILO. They all say the same thing, that collective bargaining is good for workers, employers and the economy. That's why we want to see collective bargaining extended here in Wales. Collective bargaining leads to a fairer sharing of the economy between workers and others, and fairer economies do better. It's no surprise, is it, that more equal economies do better, because they draw on a wider pool of talent as a result. That's the purpose behind our social partnership Bill: it is to make sure that the contribution of all those who help to make Wales a more prosperous place can be properly captured and put to work. The partnership structures will be reformed to support that. The Bill will define the nature of social partnership here in Wales. And, to answer Dawn Bowden's final point, of course, all those who come to the table come there as equal partners, all with something different to contribute, each with an equal value in that contribution.