9. Debate on The First Supplementary Budget 2019-20

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:20 pm on 9 July 2019.

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Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour 6:20, 9 July 2019

I only wish to make a short observation on this debate this afternoon. The committee, in its report, declares itself to be 'surprised' that the Welsh Government has not taken further actions to make a reality of its declaration of a climate emergency. It may well be, on this occasion, it would be unreasonable to expect the Welsh Government to have completely reworked the whole of its budget priorities in the last few weeks, but I do not believe it would have been unreasonable to have expected the Welsh Government to have recognised the importance of its own declarations. This is a declaration that the Welsh Government made itself, and it is therefore entirely reasonable that one would expect and anticipate the Welsh Government to ensure that its own priorities are reflected in its own budget. So, I believe that this is something that I hope the Welsh Government will continue to reflect upon, and I think it will be entirely reasonable when the Welsh Government comes back to this place with its next budget statement that it will be able to demonstrate very clearly how its own statements drive its own thinking, its own decision making and its own financial strategy, and I believe that the committee and others should be very clear about that.

The second item I wish to raise this afternoon, Presiding Officer, is that which has been raised by all Members, I believe, taking part in this debate, and that is over pensions. There has, of course, been a clear agreement in place between the Welsh and UK Governments for some time that the statement of funding principles is clear that any decision taken by the UK administration will be fully funded and agreement reached by and with the devolved administrations. This has clearly not been the case in this very clear example, where one of the building blocks of the settlement has not driven policy and not driven decision making by the UK Government. It is wholly disappointing and frankly unacceptable that so much time, energy and difficulty should be expended trying to resolve an issue that should never have arisen in the first place.

I see the First Minister is in his place for this debate, and perhaps it would be a good thing were he able to take this matter to the Prime Minister and be absolutely clear that if she wants to have a review of devolution, she needs to review devolution in its entirety and ensure that her Government delivers on her commitments, her statements and her policies. It is entirely unacceptable that the Welsh Government is placed in this position, and I hope, Presiding Officer, that this place can send a very clear signal to the UK Government that we expect all of these agreements to be delivered in full and in a timely manner.

The final substantive issue I wish to address in this contribution is about the M4. We've had a considerable debate over the M4 in this place over the past few weeks, and it has been made absolutely clear to all of us who have taken part in this debate that the Welsh Government has a clear commitment to ensure that there is a delivery of a resolution to the M4 in a timely manner. It is a matter of some disappointment and concern, therefore, that the Minister was not able to answer even the most basic questions on the budget available to the commission that is being established. Despite repeated questions on the matter, the Minister failed to give us a reassurance at all that there exists any budget at all for this work. Certainly, there was no budget that she was able to identify in front of the committee. Despite the reassurances that we've had from the First Minister that the commission will have the funding it requires to do its job, I believe that we are left unreassured on this matter and I believe that we do require the Government to move very, very quickly to demonstrate that it does have the funding in place to deliver on its commitments.

The final point I wish to make is this: we have, over the past few years, developed a way in which we've debated and discussed financial matters, however, I do not believe that we have moved far enough and quickly enough. Whilst some Members may be impressed by the paperwork, for me, it is important that we have a process in place that enables us to contribute to debate, deliberate on these matters and reach conclusions that inform the Government's decision making. I spoke in the business statement some weeks ago, asking the Government to provide an opportunity for us to have a full debate on its budget priorities prior to tabling the budget. The Government has decided not to accept that request and not to move forward with it. I do believe, therefore, that we do need to look hard at how supplementary budgets are tabled to ensure that we do have the opportunity to question the Minister, as a Parliament, fully before this matter goes to committee and before we're asked to vote on these matters. I hope that these are all issues that we will be able to address over the coming 12 months. Thank you.