David Melding, thank you for your contributions in relation to the Welsh language projects. I think it's entirely important, even though the Ministers aren't in the room currently, to try and connect it with Cymraeg 2050, and how we can make sure that the Welsh language opportunities are scaled up. I appreciate that S4C have said to us in their briefing for today's debate that they are working on various films, but on the screens we haven't actually seen that materialise for quite some time. So, I understand that they have a relationship with the independent sector and that they are reliant on co-production somewhat, but we do need to see a bit more proactivity, I think, because S4C are losing out while other people are gaining. But I think Caroline Jones's point in relation to the streaming services is something that S4C are benefiting from. We're seeing the Welsh language programmes, such as Hinterland, becoming successful on those streaming services, where watching foreign films or Nordic noir, for example, is a norm, and people feel that that's something that they can engage with, and watching it in Welsh is just as normal as if they were watching it in Danish or Norwegian.

I think you made a good point in relation to the market—how we market Wales to the world. I think that that is still a challenge in how we make Wales distinctive. Yes, we have the language, but we have to be selling opportunities in relation to the places that people can come to film here in Wales, be it the mountains or the seaside—what it is better to come to do here in Wales than in Scotland. Because at the moment I'm afraid we are losing out to other parts of the UK and other parts of the world, where international companies are seeing that they would want to come here, but processes are not happening as swiftly as we would like and therefore they are moving their operations to other countries. So, I am really, really happy that the Deputy Minister has said that Creative Wales will be announced at the same time as Brexit. But then again, the goalposts might change for Brexit, and the goalposts have changed for Creative Wales a few times as well. So, hopefully it won't be thus and we will be looking forward to the launch of Creative Wales in due course.

What I didn't mention in my speech was what we mentioned in our report, which was asking for a scalable fund. We found that you had the Ffilm Cymru applications, which were small-scale filming opportunities, and then you had the media investment budget and then, in the middle, people were losing out and not able to apply for any of the funding, simply not getting to those MIB levels but, potentially, too big for Ffilm Cymru. So, I'll be looking to hear more again in the future because this isn't the end of the story about how those mid-level opportunities can be promoted for indigenous Welsh companies who want to be able to grow and to establish themselves here in Wales. I think that's absolutely fundamental.

Again, just noting quickly about the streaming services, I note that Netflix has just said that they're going to be located in London, and I think that's something that we shouldn't shun and we should try and work more with in relation to what they would be able to invest in the future here in Wales. Just because they're based in London doesn't mean that they can't come and talk to us here in Wales about the opportunities for filming. It's not just Netflix, there are lots of other streaming services that we can be utilising, but they have decided to base themselves here and that's something that we shouldn't turn our noses to.

I think it's really important just to mention the issues with regard to what Equity said in terms of having those opportunities to have auditions in Wales. This has been something that's been absolutely long-standing. I've got actor friends who've been on the train together to go for a part that's filmed in Wales but they're going to London for those auditions. I mean, it's simply absurd, really. And that's something that I'm glad the Deputy Minister has said he will look into.

Just to finish, I think what's really important is how we look at the skills potential. We acknowledged that the skills were developing, and we don't want to undermine anything that's happening in our universities or in some of the production companies, but what we did hear when we launched this report was that post-production is something that is absolutely crying out for investment here in Wales. So, while it may not have been particularly mentioned in black and white in our report in relation to post-production, we want to assure the industry that that is something that we want to look at. We heard that many women who perhaps had taken time off for maternity leave who would have been capable of doing some of those roles were losing out then when they came back into the system because they were not being provided with the upskilling necessary to do that role, and I think that's something that we all need to be aware of.

I also think that we have to be talking about recommendation 5, which refers to including

'exploring the option for requiring funding recipients to enter into co-production agreements with Welsh companies.'

And:

'The requirement to spend at least 35 per cent of the "below the line" production budget on local suppliers, cast, crew and facilities'.

We wanted to add all those different elements in because we heard evidence in some of the networking events that we had that some of these multinational corporations were bringing in crew and bringing in catering from other parts of the UK, and that's something that we really don't need to happen when we have that wealth of talent in the food and drinks industry here in Wales and also local suppliers that can become part of the procurement trail.

So, this isn't the end of the process, but I'm thankful that everybody's engaged positively with this particular report.