Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:34 pm on 10 July 2019.
Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer, and, in tabling this Bill, I’m very pleased that Alun Davies has confirmed that I did that in the honourable tradition of Keir Hardie's and Donald Dewar’s home rule tradition. I hadn’t realised when I tabled the Bill a few months ago that I was doing so in that tradition. But it is important constitutional legislation for us here in Wales, and thank you for acknowledging that and reminding us of our history in that regard.
I acknowledge and recognise that both Chairs and their reports had asked for more information, of course, and earlier this afternoon I have committed to giving as much as I can of additional information to be of use to the further scrutiny processes that will face us on the journey of this Bill. I'm very pleased to hear that the Counsel General has confirmed too that he will be in a position on a number of aspects to be giving additional information to meet the needs of the two relevant committees, and the Counsel General in his contribution has confirmed that the remit for the strategic group that will be leading on the work of changing the franchise will be announced and further details will be given to the Assembly before we go on to Stages 2 and 3.
The Counsel General in his contribution also confirmed the Government’s opinion that it isn’t the local government Bill that is the appropriate Bill to introduce the accountability of the Electoral Commission in legislation, but it’s this particular Bill that is most appropriate for doing that, and I agree with that. The point, of course, in terms of devolution of the work of the Electoral Commission and making them accountable in terms of funding and general accountability to this Assembly, is that the same work is ongoing in the Scottish Parliament at the moment and there’s legislation currently before the Parliament in Scotland to introduce this accountability by 2021 as well. I think it would be good for us to run this process concurrently, and certainly the Electoral Commission is eager for that to happen in Wales and in Scotland at the same time.
Thank you to David Melding for his contribution to the debate and being so enthusiastic and robust in favour of lowering the voting age to those aged 16 and 17. That was also shared by Dai Lloyd. Some in the Chamber were slightly less enthusiastic on these particular points, but do remember that this Assembly in a previous vote had supported the principle of votes at 16 and 17 years of age, and I am confident that that majority continues in terms of introducing votes at 16 and 17.
On changing the name of the Assembly, there was a divergence of opinions. Some had changed their opinion from one debate to the next, and acknowledged that in their contributions. I am pleased—. With regard to one specific point on legislative competence on the change of name, I’m pleased that the Counsel General has placed on record his opinion that it’s unlikely on this point that there could be an Order in Council to provide clarity on the issue of competence, so that is therefore unlikely to be a way of explaining competency in a different manner than we have at present.
It’s clear from what has been put forward in contributions this afternoon that there’s a divergence of opinion in terms of changing the name. It’s not an issue for me to table any amendments on that change, particularly because the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee hasn’t put forward any recommendations of its own on that issue, but I’m sure that there will be amendments in that regard as we move towards Stages 2 and 3.
To conclude, therefore, this afternoon, I want to thank my fellow Commissioners for their commitment to collaborating—