Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:50 pm on 10 July 2019.
But the essence of the argument that I'm presenting is that we cannot afford to wait until 2026. This is not a problem that can be put off until tomorrow, let alone another five years’ time—it’s a crisis in our democracy that we have to put right today. And we can do it today if we support this motion. And for those who are in any doubt about whether we have the time, I’d just remind you that in 1997, of course, by my reckoning, there were 20 months between the 1997 referendum and the elections to the first Assembly. We have 22 months before the next election, and I don’t think any of us would want to argue that we are less capacious than Westminster in bringing forward legislation to strengthen Welsh democracy.