8. Plaid Cymru Debate: Assembly Reform

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:21 pm on 10 July 2019.

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Photo of Hefin David Hefin David Labour 6:21, 10 July 2019

I'm being told by the Dirprwy Lywydd that I can't.

But the last thing I'd say is that this is just part of a bigger picture, and I think we also need—I say to the First Minister, when representing us to Westminster—we need a federalised UK as well. I think we need a federalised system across the UK with regional Parliaments in England that recognise devolved power, but we need a system of devo max in Wales that is balanced across the United Kingdom. I think that is absolutely fundamental. We have the opportunity here in this Parliament to lead the way on it, and I hope and will do my best with my colleagues to persuade the Labour Party that that's what we need in our manifesto in 2021.