8. Plaid Cymru Debate: Assembly Reform

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:31 pm on 10 July 2019.

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Photo of Huw Irranca-Davies Huw Irranca-Davies Labour 6:31, 10 July 2019

I'll continue; I'll ignore that remark and continue.

The report refers to itself repeatedly as a call to action, and I agree. But our actions must flow from building a dialogue and a consensus here and across Wales that recognises the challenges we face and is willing to put forward democratic and electoral reforms for the good of Wales. But let's be clear as well what this is not about: it's not about the number or election of councillors or Members of Parliament or MEPs, or the over 900 and growing members of the House of Lords. This is about the capacity of this place—this Senedd, this Welsh Parliament—to deliver effectively for the people of Wales. We now have Parliament in reality indeed, which has seen its role change from a very limited Assembly when established in 1999, through successive iterations driven by Government of Wales Acts and Richard and Silk commissions, and a 2016 tax Act, to become a muscular legislature on a reserved model similar to Scotland, with primary law-making powers and tax-varying powers. Yet, our capacity of effective scrutiny in 2019 as a democratic institution remains constrained by the then necessary electoral compromises of 1999.

So, Dirprwy Lywydd, in supporting the Government's amendment today we need also to work across parties and across Wales to build that consensus that will indeed create a Parliament that works for Wales and the people of Wales, now and for the challenges of the future, and I look forward to playing a full part in building that consensus.