1. Debate: Brexit and Prorogation of the UK Parliament

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 1:29 pm on 5 September 2019.

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Photo of Adam Price Adam Price Plaid Cymru 1:29, 5 September 2019

Look, now is your opportunity to show that clear green water, if you like. There's a motion that you'll be voting in favour of, or against, this afternoon. Take that opportunity to declare your own independence, if that is what you wish to do.

Now, I think the amendments that we have tabled are in the spirit of trying to create unity across this Chamber. They are certainly not an attempt to in any way divide us unnecessarily. I don't think they're extraneous, because they're very much related either directly to the Brexit crisis or they raise the broader question of the democratic crisis that, actually, I think was brought home to us by the leader of the Brexit Party here, because he said, 'Whatever we say here, of course, it's immaterial, because Westminster can ignore us', and, though probably by accident, he has hit on a central challenge that we face that has been laid bare in these times. And it's not just me that has made that argument, but, of course, several senior members of the Labour Party represented here as well.

Amendment number 6, which I would hope the Welsh Government would be in a position to support, asks for the assessments carried out by the Cabinet Office of the harmful impact of crashing out—the so-called Yellowhammer report—to be published in full. I understand that the shadow Brexit Secretary, Keir Starmer, on 4 September said that he would be asking his Welsh Government colleagues to be making that case. He said, 'I will, but I'm not sure that me calling for it is enough to get it published', he admitted, but he did agree that it would be useful for the Welsh Government to make that publication and, indeed, he's speaking as former director of public prosecutions.

A further amendment, amendment 2 we've tabled,

'calls for article 50 to be revoked' if we're faced with an immediate prospect of a 'no deal' Brexit. Again, I believe there should be cross-party agreement for this. It's essentially using revocation as a last resort option and I believe there has been support expressed for that from Labour Members, and, so, again, we would hope that it would be possible for us to achieve some degree of cross-party unity here.

A third amendment we've tabled states that, in the event of a general election being called before or instead of a referendum, then pro-remain parties should campaign on a policy of revoking article 50 and remaining in the European Union. The very simple reason for this is that, effectively, though we prefer, as set out in the motion, for there to be a referendum, because we believe that's the best means of resolving the Brexit crisis, if that is denied, however, then, effectively, a general election becomes a proxy referendum and you'll have on the one hand pro-Brexit parties with a very simple message, which is, basically, a 'no deal' Brexit. On the remain side, we also need a clear message, and, if it is effectively a substitute for a referendum, a surrogate, then what we need then is pro-remain parties to be adopting a simple policy of revoke and remain, and, indeed, I think the Counsel General has himself expressed that view on 9 July in the Senedd—that he hoped that the Labour Party should be advocating remain in its manifesto in a general election under the kind of circumstances that I've set out.

The last amendment refers to this issue of the democratic crisis that we face. It's a genuine attempt to bring parties together in Wales, to use the current crisis creatively, to use the moment to launch a constructive debate on Wales's future via a constitutional convention and a citizens' assembly, which would look at all options for Wales's constitutional future. Obviously, my party has a very clear constitutional position in terms of independence, but we could look at all the options that we face in order to resolve the democratic crisis that I think Brexit has brought to the fore. We put this proposal forward in an ecumenical spirit. Creating a new Wales cannot be the work of one party. It's the work of an entire nation, of all its people and all its perspectives. So, let's use this debate also not just to stand up against the harm that the undemocratic London minority Government is wilfully attempting to inflict on our country; let us use it as well to launch a positive movement for change to begin the work of creating a new Wales that will have an opportunity to participate and influence a new Europe too.