Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 7:56 pm on 17 September 2019.
Well, the evidence that Darren Millar puts forward from New Zealand is very different from the evidence that I have read, and the first-hand reports that I've received about what's happened in New Zealand is that it has been a very positive experience, that 10 years have resulted in a very successful bit of legislation of which they are proud. So, I think you're looking at something very different than what I'm seeing.
So, with regard to the police, as I say, we've got their total support and we're working very closely with them. Another theme that has come up is the pressure that is on, particularly, social services and on the front-line staff. And, again, we've had a lot of discussion and debate with social services members and I know that they gave evidence, again, to the children and young persons committee, and, again, I've got to repeat that social services are totally in support of this legislation. All the professionals who are working on the front line, who are working with children, who are helping parents, want this legislation to go through, because it makes their job so much easier because they are clear in what they can do, how they can help, and how they can advise parents. So, we've got all those people that you're worrying about, about the social services and the burden of it—they're completely behind us. So, I think it's really important that we do take that on board, that all the professionals who are involved in a professional way on working on the front line are supporting this legislation.
And then the third point I'd like to make, really, is the issue about support for the Bill. The feedback to the children and young persons committee was: professional support organisations, total. But individual responses from parents were, on the whole, negative. We have done representative surveys of parents and of the public from the Government and certainly there does appear to be a trend of much greater acceptance of this legislation and a much greater feeling that this is the right way to go. Amongst younger people, it's very, very strong, because 60 per cent of those aged 16 to 35 do not think it is necessary to smack a child, and that is of younger people, and particularly of parents with children under seven. And so I do think that this is—. We are going along with the times; things are moving.
We heard in contributions to the debate that there was a time when we thought it was completely wrong for—we thought it was right for children to be hit in schools; there was an uproar about removing corporal punishment. Now, we're moving on to the next stage. I know the Deputy Presiding Officer is telling me I have to finish, but I just want to finish, really, by saying thank you, all, for all your contributions, whatever side you came in on, because I think—. I do hope that we will get the vote here today to take this through, because I think this is a landmark bit of legislation and I'll be very proud if this Welsh Parliament passes it.