10. Plaid Cymru Debate: Climate Justice

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:06 pm on 18 September 2019.

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Photo of Hefin David Hefin David Labour 5:06, 18 September 2019

Let's remember where this is coming from: this is motivated not just by an issue people care about, but by massive frustration on the behalf of young people and fear—and fear—it's fear for the future that they have. It isn't something they're just campaigning on. It's something that is very material and real to the lives of our children and their future. And think about it, they're seeing the likes of Donald Trump being elected in America; they're seeing the Government of China; they're seeing what's happening in Brazil; they're seeing David Cameron saying he's going to lead the greenest government ever and then saying, 'Let's get rid of all this green crap', later on—excuse me, Llywydd—in the course of his Government. These people are scared.

I've spoken to an 18-year-old young Labour activist who's just off to university this month, Morgan Paulett, in my constituency, about how seriously we should be taking this. Believe me, I was sitting with him in the office and this isn't just a campaign; this is something that people feel deeply about their future. He actually sent me a couple of paragraphs, about which he said, 'If I was in your position, this is what I would say.' So, with your permission, Llywydd, I'd like to read what he would have liked to have said.

'Rising global temperatures mean that thousands of miles of permafrost in the Arctic circle are melting, which could mean two very worrying things. Carbon dioxide stored in that permafrost will be released into the atmosphere when it melts and there are pathogens that have been locked in the ice since the prehistoric era with which humans are yet to ever come into contact. Rising temperatures could also mean the drying up of the Indus river in Pakistan as well as unpredictable monsoons in India, meaning two hostile neighbouring nuclear powers with rapidly growing populations could experience acute food shortages in the coming days. These are just two of the many major crises that future generations will be hit with in the decades to come and many young people are increasingly anxious and frustrated about Governments, collective Governments' failure to deal with these threats seriously and commit to carbon neutrality by 2030.'

Those are his words. This is what he's written for me and wanted me to say, and I have no problem saying it. He added to that that he would like a youth general strike across the world to deal with this. This is his view.

My view is that we need to look at what we can do here, and I feel strongly, and I've said before in this Chamber, we need fundamental root-and-branch reform of our representative democracy in this country, and I think part of it is making sure 16-year-olds have a voice, and part of it is making sure that when you vote, the parties you vote for are then represented and they have to work on these issues or they will lose power. Donald Trump wasn't elected by a system that works. It isn't true representative democracy, in my view, in America. Certainly not in China and the same in Brazil. We need young people's voices to be heard and I think those changes in our democracy will enable that.

I'd also like to draw the Chamber's attention to—. I'm seeing my time's up. We've got three minutes, Llywydd, for these speeches.