Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:15 pm on 18 September 2019.
Rhianon Passmore is also trying to intervene, so if I could deal with the point she also made earlier, because it's as relevant—she asked one of my colleagues, 'Do the Brexit Party now accept that the problems of air quality and climate change are intricately linked?' Yes, we do. And a key way in which they have been intricately linked is the policy of Labour Governments and the European Union to incentivise a switch from petrol to diesel, because the marginal reduction in carbon dioxide emissions is actually what is leading to much of the problems we were discussing in our last debate in terms of air pollution and people dying who otherwise would not be so—