5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Housing and Local Government: Building on Wales's recycling record

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:10 pm on 24 September 2019.

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Photo of David Lloyd David Lloyd Plaid Cymru 5:10, 24 September 2019

Can I thank the Deputy Minister for her statement and welcome a lot of work that's being done? Obviously, our recycling rates are to be commended, but, obviously, we're in an age now where a step change—and climate change emergencies are the background to all this, and Greta Thunberg yesterday issued challenges all round. So, things are good, but they could be better.

Specifically in terms of the points that—. You say in your statement we need to invest in additional infrastructure to move to 100 per cent of material not being exported. A couple of weeks ago, we discovered that—because this is a local authority issue now, and, obviously, a lot of good work has been done by all our local authorities. But during 2017-18, the City and County of Swansea sent recyclable waste to various parts of the globe, it's fair to say, as it sent 10,007 tonnes to England, 3,697 tonnes to Turkey, 1,816 tonnes to China, and so it goes on—Indonesia, India, Poland. The City and County of Swansea recycled 27,559 tonnes in Wales. There's a similar story with Neath Port Talbot council. They also sent over 10,000 tonnes of recyclable waste to England in that year, 2,000 tonnes to Indonesia, 1,700 tonnes to Portugal and 974 tonnes to China, recycling 12,377 tonnes in Wales. I shan't bore the Deputy Minister with the other figures for the other local authorities in Wales.

But consequent to the sentence there about needing to invest in additional infrastructure, I would suggest that we need to support our local authorities far more aggressively than we are to develop recycling centres here in Wales, both at a local level and at a regional level, particularly for plastic recycling. So, can I ask specifically what work is being done there to support our local authorities so that they don't have to send recyclable waste all around the globe in those tonnage figures just quoted? And also, what are we doing as regards legislating to ban the plastics that cannot be recycled at the moment and just actually using plastics that can be recycled? Because I do find it astonishing that local authorities in Wales are sending recyclable materials so far around the globe. Residents in Swansea, in particular, are quite rightly asking why thousands of tonnes of their recyclable material is being sent not only across the border to England, but also to places really further afield, such as Turkey, China, India, Indonesia and Poland. Surely, that is unsustainable. What about that carbon footprint? We need to create the recycling centres and the jobs that go with them here in Wales.