Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:01 pm on 25 September 2019.
No, I'm not agreeing with you—I think what we’ve seen in England is them falling into the trap of thinking they can put all the money into the health service, starve other services delivered by local authorities, leading to a knock-on in additional pressures on the NHS. What I’m saying is that money should be considered in the round. Money going into social care, social services, is preventative money that can save money for the NHS down the line. So, no, that is exactly the point I’m not making. We have to be more imaginative. Yes, absolutely, fund the NHS adequately, but not consider it in isolation.