6. Debate on the Children, Young People and Education Committee Report: School Funding in Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:15 pm on 23 October 2019.

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Photo of Kirsty Williams Kirsty Williams Liberal Democrat 5:15, 23 October 2019

Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. Could I begin by thanking the committee for their report and their consideration given to this most important of areas? I'm very grateful that the committee took the decision to look at this subject, and as always, as Alun Davies says, the committee's consideration has been detailed, thoughtful and useful to me as the Minister for Education. As I have stated in my written response to the committee, the strength of the evidence provided highlights how essential it is that our schools receive the appropriate levels of funding.

The report also highlights just how hugely complex the school funding system is. That's something that I also recognise. It's multilayered and it's dependent on many factors, which make it incredibly difficult to provide a simple, single solution. I have accepted all of the committee's recommendations, and my officials have already started taking these forward, but I hear the points raised by the Chair of the committee and I'm happy to supply further written responses to the points that she has raised, because I will not have time in my contribution this afternoon to address them all.

However, we have to recognise that whilst the UK Government's spending round indicates some loosening of the purse strings, it does not provide the sustainable long-term basis on which to plan that our public services desperately need and is referenced in recommendation 15 of the committee's report. I have to say to Suzy Davies, with the greatest of respect, she quoted a figure of three years' funding that has been made available to the Department of Education. I would have loved to have been in the same position. The reality is that this Government does not know its spending allocation for more than one year. It is all very well to give that security to colleagues in England and then not provide that security to us here in Wales, and people out there need to know that. The Welsh Conservatives—