Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:18 pm on 23 October 2019.
No, I won't. The Welsh Conservatives speak disingenuously about the level of funding Wales received via the spending round for next year. As they should know, due to issues surrounding the treatment of non-domestic rates, that has led to a reduction of £178 million to the Welsh budget, and you simply cannot compare like for like when looking at departmental budgets. Essentially, Wales's overall budget has risen, it has risen, by some 2.3 per cent in real terms next year—that is a fact that I am quite happy to acknowledge—whilst the key departments in England have seen rises of more than 3 per cent in real terms. That is the reality of the situation that we're dealing with.
I also continue to see that the Welsh Conservatives refer to an alleged £600 per pupil spending gap compared to England. They know, Presiding Officer, that they are quoting an old figure from 2011, and they know it is incorrect. They know that up-to-date figures show the gap has been virtually eliminated. It is really time, if we're to make progress on this issue, that we are honest about the situation that we all face and we stop trying to mislead people.
Members will be aware of the call yesterday, Presiding Officer, from the Welsh Youth Parliament for more emphasis on life skills, including financial education, in the curriculum. Well, after the performance this afternoon, all I can say is perhaps I could arrange an adult education class on the same subject for some of the Members in this Chamber. It might be a good start.
Presiding Officer, I'm not intending to go through each of the report’s recommendations. I have been clear in my response to the committee, and if the Chair wants further clarity, I'm happy to provide that. But I would like to provide a little more detail on the primary recommendation contained in the report, recommendation 1. We have engaged with stakeholders who called for the review as well as those who have done research into education funding. So, we have sought advice from National Education Union, from NAHT, from the Association of School and College Leaders, from Undeb Cenedlaethol Athrawon Cymru—our various union stakeholders.
The committee will be aware, as is Siân Gwenllian, of the complexities in identifying the basic cost of running a school and educating a pupil. The IFS say that average per-pupil spend in Wales is just under £6,000 per person, but spending per pupil varies. It varies across local authorities. This range reflects a combination of differences in deprivation, in sparsity, in the deployment of staff in individual institutions, of the very structure of a school system within a local education authority, as well as the choices that are made by local authorities in line with their responsibility for setting school budgets. And as a result, I would argue that there is no average Welsh school.
We need to have a clear understanding of how different schools and different authorities spend their money at present, and we need to do that to help influence future policy making. I am therefore pleased to announce this afternoon that the leading education economist, Luke Sibieta, has agreed to undertake this work independently of Government. I'm sure that Members will recognise Luke’s expertise and work in this area, including his work for the Institute for Fiscal Studies, and I will make further announcements on the terms of reference of the review and the timescales of Luke’s review in coming days.