6. Statement by the Minister for Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs: The Welsh National Marine Plan

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:41 pm on 12 November 2019.

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Photo of Lesley Griffiths Lesley Griffiths Labour 3:41, 12 November 2019

I thank the Member for that series of questions. I do think it's a durable plan. As you say, it's our vision for the next 20 years. It's been a long time coming. I've been working on this, along with officials, since I first came into post three years ago, and I think it was important to get it right. It was something that I thought was very necessary, for us to have our own marine plan, particularly with, as you say, the new powers that will be coming forward. Will it need refining at times? I guess we have to be flexible in relation to that, but I certainly would not want to see a wholesale look again or another consultation in this area over the next 20 years.

You asked about NRW and their regulation capacity and capabilities, and I met this morning with the chair of NRW and other officials from NRW, where regulation is often a standing item, as I'm sure you can imagine, but we specifically spoke about regulation and the importance of their ability to be able to regulate new policies and plans that we're bringing forward, along with the current ones. Certainly, I am assured that that is the case.

You asked a series of questions, one being around involvement with the UK Government, and you're quite right about cross-border arrangements, if you like, in relation to the sea. So, we have engaged with all our neighbouring marine planning authorities to support the development of effective cross-border planning, because I think that's very important within this plan. Certainly, my department has had close and regular liaison with the Marine Management Organisation on marine planning matters to ensure we do have that joined-up approach. We've also engaged with Scotland, with Northern Ireland, with the Republic of Ireland and the Isle of Man, and we've also put in place a ways-of-working agreement with the Marine Management Organisation around collaboration.

There is an economic focus to the plan, and I think it's about balance in relation to—you mentioned tourism and ports and shipping, and, certainly, officials have engaged right across Government. But there are clearly many jobs already in relation to our coastal communities and our marine life. Obviously, I've worked closely with Ministers in relation to bringing forward this plan. We are absolutely committed to making Wales a more prosperous, sustainable and equal society, so the seas play a crucial role in our economy and particularly the economies of our coastal communities, and as I said in my opening statement, they're under immense pressure at the moment. So, I think it's really important that we recognise the wealth of assets our seas offer and the need to plan for them in a sustainable way.

You also mentioned renewable energy, and, clearly, a lot of the technologies coming forward are novel. I attended the marine energy conference in Dublin last month, or maybe the month before, and some of the technology that was on show there—there were many developers for floating wind, for instance. Clearly, over the coming years, that's going to be an important part. So, again, it's really important that we work very closely with developers, with our consenting organisations and with our regulators too, to make sure that we are able to take the opportunities that these new technologies are coming forward with.

You specifically mentioned fossil fuels, and I thought that it was really important to have that in the plan. I hope I made my views very clear in our opening statement alongside—the differing fossil fuel policies that we have between the UK Government and the Welsh Government.

I am very clear that our land planning policy can be used. That should be able to avoid the continued extraction and consumption of fossil fuels on land, and that must be applied in any considerations related to shore-based infrastructure associated with offshore oil and gas activity.