Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:48 pm on 13 November 2019.
Well, I do think that the Member makes a good point in that many of us have additional responsibilities that we take on, which come with very considerable time commitments. And we do that as part of service that enriches our vocation here. I am a longstanding member of two governing bodies of special schools, for instance.
So, I think the point is that we have got to be careful about using law—it's the most dramatic thing that we can do—to restrict the right of the electorate to make the choices they think are best for them. There's a very profound reason to disallow people from being in more than one legislature, but I do not think that that principle is strong in terms of justifying exclusion at local government level from being a Member of this place. However, many of us personally would find it difficult to do those two roles and would not choose to take them. It's a matter for the elected Member and the electorate, in my view.
Therefore, I urge you to reverse the amendments brought in by the Government. And, as the Llywydd said, this, again, was not dealt with at introduction, it's not had a full examination. The fourth Assembly was quite split on this issue when it was examined by the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee, because—in my view, anyway, as the then Chair—we could not find that firm principle that absolutely did draw a line. It doesn't. We're making a political choice here, and I don't think we should make it; we should leave it to the electorate.