My only amendments in this group are amendments 25 and 31 and they would, if adopted, reverse the Welsh Government's amendment at Stage 2, which disqualifies councillors from being returned as Members of the Assembly. I think it's very important that we only restrict democratic rights the bare minimum, and I think there's a clear reason to say people should not serve in more than one legislature. That I understand. But councils are not legislatures. There is, perhaps, a possible objection that a member of a council would have a conflict of interest in our proceedings at certain times. I don't dismiss this; I think that is a possibility. But they would also bring another view of the work of a very close partner in terms of government, and we have our own mechanisms to deal with conflicts of interest. So, I do not think that this is a profound point that warrants disqualification. I have to say that, myself, I don't think that it's ideal to be a councillor and to be a Member of this place, but I think that matter can be resolved by the electorate and that's where it should stand.

Some people have said that you can't do more than one job. Well, the job of a councillor is not a full-time occupation. Indeed, we try to recruit people who are in various walks of life and employment to be councillors. It is, however, a considerable commitment. That, clearly, is recognised in the allowances that are attracted to the post of councillor, and I think we all admire the work that councillors do in terms of delivering public services, the planning system; they are really quite onerous responsibilities.

But, you know, in our parliamentary system—and I don't think anyone here proposes that we shift dramatically to a congressional model, where there is complete separation between legislature and Executive—we, in effect, have double jobbing, because, in front of me there, on the front bench, is the Welsh Government. Now, presumably, that's an arduous job, and I don't say this in a sarcastic way, because I don't doubt it; I think that it is a tremendous responsibility in terms of the time commitment and the sacrifices that you have to make to serve in Executive office. But you do that and you function as Assembly Members. So, if you can combine those roles, I think it has to be said that it is at least possible to combine the role of councillor and Assembly Member. I give way.