Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:33 pm on 27 November 2019.
If you can explain to the people of Wales how on earth you're going to close the fiscal gap, which taxes are going to rise, which public services are going to be cut in order to make those public finances meet, then I'll happily sit down and have a conversation. If you can explain to the people of Wales and the people of England how you are going to be an independent nation without a hard border, even though you want to be part of the EU single market and the rest of the United Kingdom is going to be coming out in the near future, then I'll be happy to have a conversation, but, to date, I've seen absolutely no evidence that that can be delivered.
So, I urge every Member in this Chamber to reject the Diane Abbott-crafted amendment in the name of the Government, to reject the appalling amendment that's been tabled by Plaid Cymru, which doesn't recognise the challenges that an independent Wales would face outside of the United Kingdom, and to support the Conservative motion on the order paper today.