8. Brexit Party Debate: Lobbyist Register

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:41 pm on 27 November 2019.

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Photo of Caroline Jones Caroline Jones UKIP 5:41, 27 November 2019

That they would see whether the voluntary approach suggested by Public Affairs Cymru increased transparency sufficiently to negate the need for a statutory register. Yet here we are, nearly two years later, and we are no closer to fully open and transparent lobbying in Wales.

Here, the sector is a prime example of the revolving door, with staff either working for or running their own lobbying firms. So, this is somewhat an unhealthy relationship between lobbyists and politicians. It does cast a shadow over our open democracy. And in order for us to avoid the corruption that has dogged Westminster politics and safeguard the vital role that lobbying plays in our democracy, my party firmly believes that we have to regulate lobbying activity. We have nothing to hide, so let's be open about the lobbying activity that takes place in our institution. It won't cost a great deal, the scheme operating in the UK Parliament costs just over £120,000 a year, and we're about to spend more than double that amount changing our name. And as they say, you can't put a price on democracy.

So, I want to reiterate that lobbying is good for a healthy democracy. I am a participant in the medicines knowledge base where the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry inform Assembly Members and their staff about issues surrounding the pharmaceutical industry. That's lobbying, and it has helped inform me about how medicines are developed and licensed, which in turn has helped me scrutinise Welsh Government policy, and there is nothing wrong with this. It's when lobbying happens in secret, behind closed doors, that things become dangerous and not transparent. Therefore, I urge colleagues to support the motion and reject the Tory amendment. We have nothing to hide, so let's be open and honest with the people we work for, and those people are our constituents.