8. Brexit Party Debate: Lobbyist Register

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:43 pm on 27 November 2019.

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Photo of Huw Irranca-Davies Huw Irranca-Davies Labour 5:43, 27 November 2019

I thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, and I genuinely seek your help and assistance here, because that's what I heard as well. It was a sweeping statement of a Cabinet of the Labour Government that was available for hire.

Now, I can understand if there had been satisfactory prosecutions, either by a standards commissioner or in a court of law, of individuals who are guilty of corruption or dishonesty in public office, but that statement applies to a number of people who, to my knowledge, have never faced any accusations or a scintilla of accusation of anything such as being in the pocket of lobbyists and so on. And the worry with this, Deputy Presiding Officer, is that this tars every individual.

The debate is fine, as far as it goes, but I genuinely seek your advice here under Standing Orders, because the worry here is that Members of this Chamber, in this Senedd, feel it appropriate to use some form of privilege to make carte blanche statements that, if they were repeated outside, would be slanderous and would be probably pursued by individuals in a court of law. That cannot be right when there is not only no evidence of wrongdoing, but not even any allegations of wrongdoing. So, I ask for your help, Deputy Presiding Officer, to seek whether the Member in this Chamber, which has conduct to uphold, should withdraw that sweeping general statement and apologise.