8. Welsh Conservatives Debate: School Education

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:45 pm on 11 December 2019.

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Photo of Helen Mary Jones Helen Mary Jones Plaid Cymru 4:45, 11 December 2019

Diolch, Llywydd. I rise to contribute to this debate in place of my colleague Siân Gwenllian, who is of course our spokesperson and isn't present today.

I find myself—and we, as a group, find ourselves—somewhat between a rock and a hard place. I have sympathy with much of what Suzy Davies has said today. We share some of the concerns that the Conservatives are raising. In fact, perhaps had we heard Suzy Davies's contribution rather than just needing to read the motion, we might have been keener to support it. Because if you just read the motion as it stands, it doesn't acknowledge the good work that teachers have done. It asks for an apology that, you know, I've got some sympathy for again, but it's a bit of a cheap shot. Reading it, it looked to us that this was going to be another one of those slightly pointless debates that we've had here, which are really to do with things that are not happening in this place, but are happening somewhere else.

The other thing that I need to say about the Conservatives in this context is that they do need to take some responsibility for the issues relating to resourcing. I am not saying, Llywydd, that it is the fault of any Conservative Member sitting in this Chamber that this place—our national Government and our national Parliament—has had its resources drained away. It needs to be said to colleagues on the Labour benches that that began to happen under Gordon Brown's watch, so nobody's hands are completely clean here. But, I do think that it is a little bit rich for the Conservatives to attack the Welsh Government for not investing when there is no money to invest.

So, we can't accept the Conservative motion as it stands, but we did—[Interruption.] Yes, why not?