8. Welsh Conservatives Debate: School Education

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:26 pm on 11 December 2019.

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Photo of Darren Millar Darren Millar Conservative 5:26, 11 December 2019

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. Can I thank everybody who's contributed to what I believe is an important debate, where we all share the ambition for our education system here in Wales to improve? If I can start on those issues where we share common ground with the Government, we too want to congratulate those teachers who have helped pupils in our schools achieve success in their education. We want that success to be even more apparent in the PISA score improvements in the future, but there is no denying that there are significant improvements that we still need to make.

It's very clear from the opening speech from Suzy Davies, which I think captured this very well, that we've been celebrating, effectively, last week, being average, being the middle of the pack, as far as the OECD PISA scores are concerned—slightly below, although perhaps not significantly statistically below, the average. But, nevertheless, that average, of course, has moved down since the previous PISA results, so it's not really something we should be aiming to be. We ought to be aiming to be well above that average, and, of course, the one nation that is significantly above that average in the UK is England, where there have been significant educational reforms that have borne a great deal of success. And that's why I agree with Helen Mary Jones's statement earlier on where she said that—and we've got, yet again, another self-congratulatory and complacent amendment that has been tabled by the Government, and it is disappointing that they haven't really recognised the seriousness in terms of where we are.

Reference was made—in fact, he waxed lyrical about, Huw Irranca-Davies did—to the reforms that have been taking place in Wales. Now, we've supported some of those reforms, but we're a little bit concerned, actually, about the pace of improvement that we've seen here in Wales, and we're also concerned that many of those reforms appear to be mirroring, to a large extent, although not exclusively, the reforms that have taken place in Scotland. Of course, we know that, in Scotland, they have suffered significant deterioration in terms of the education system there, when measured against the PISA outputs and scores.

Now, I recognise, as was pointed out during the debate, that PISA is just one of those things that you look at when you're considering the quality of your education system. You've got to triangulate it with other pieces of data and information, and this point was made by a number of people in the debate. That's why I think it's important to consider the GCSE results, and, yes, there were some aspects of improvement in those results last year, but there were also some aspects that didn't improve, and there was some falling back in some areas. So, I think it is a bit of a mixed bag, really, in terms of the GCSE position. And, of course, David Melding made reference to the fact that, at some of the other key stages, we've also seen a rather significant deterioration, which I think doesn't necessarily bode well for the future.

Reference was also made, of course, to the fact that the OECD report does not just look at the scores in reading, maths and science, but it also looks at other things that might be having a bearing on the education system. Some of those findings, which were read to us, about reading and other things, are a significant concern. But some of the other things that weren't referred to that were included in that report were things like the substance misuse engagement in Wales versus other parts of the UK. You're more than twice as likely to have taken alcohol or drugs amongst that PISA cohort when compared to the situation in England, and it's also a higher rate than in Scotland. I think that's a cause for serious concern, actually, and I think that we need to take some action to address it.

I was very pleased to hear David Melding quite rightly refer to the fact that we need to be considering well-being and looked-after children in our future plans, and I will commend the Government for actually recognising that this is something that the new curriculum needs to focus some more on, particularly given those other statistics, which also seem to indicate that we've got a bigger problem here than in other parts of the UK.

Finally, if I may, I want to turn to resources, which are clearly hindering the capacity of our teachers to do their job. It's not just me saying that. It's not just the Welsh Conservatives saying that. It's the OECD report itself, and those teachers who were sampled. So, 41 per cent of the teachers in Wales who took part in the survey said that they did not have the resources to be able to do their job—that it was hindering their capacity. That compares to 22 per cent of those polled in England, a massive difference. So, I think to say that resources are not a big issue is very much a concern.

Of course, Mohammad Asghar pointed out the significant funding gap that's been estimated by the NASUWT as £640 per year per pupil—a massive gap. We know that it's not funds that you don't have; you have £1.20 for every £1 that's given per pupil for their education in England. And yet, we know from your own figures, which were released by the Finance Minister just a few weeks ago, in an amendment to our debate, that you are only spending £1.06 of that £1.20 at the moment. I would like to ask you—and if you want to intervene, I would be very happy to take an intervention—where's the rest of the cash gone?