I would absolutely agree with Huw Irranca-Davies on this.

Let me just briefly take the three sections one by one. The Crown Prosecution Service must have revised its guidance: well, I am prepared to accept the Minister's assurance that she's given me today on behalf of my party that she fully anticipates that, by the time this legislation is implemented, that guidance will have been revised, and that she's had assurances from the Crown Prosecution Service to that effect, and I for one am prepared to believe the Crown Prosecution Service.

Section (b) calls for the UK Government, the police and the Crown Prosecution Service to establish an alternative-to-prosecution pathway. Well, it's never been the UK Government's job to directly establish that, even in pre-devolution days. The police will take a lead, with others, in providing alternatives to prosecution. But I really don't believe that we are likely to see dozens and dozens of families facing prosecution who would not otherwise have done so. The Irish experience has showed that their legislation has only led to one family, across the whole nation, in the whole period of its implementation, going into the process who would not otherwise have done so. And that was because a member of the public spotted some behaviour that she was concerned about in a public place, reported that to the police, and when they investigated they discovered that, beneath that public smack, was a really serious pattern of abuse, which of course would not normally be the case. So, section (b) doesn't make sense as it stands.

Section (c) asks the Welsh Ministers to establish parenting support services. Well, the Welsh Government has been working on establishing parenting support services in many ways for many years. Are we on these benches entirely sanguine that they're doing everything they can do, should do, and will do? Well, of course not; it's our job to scrutinise and it's our job to raise concerns. But it seems, to us, foolish to put on the face of the Bill a requirement for the Welsh Government to do something that they've been doing for about 18 years anyway.

Happy always to take an intervention from Darren Millar.