Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. The approach I'm taking to this short debate is one that I've discussed with the Minister. I haven't actually written a speech. I have notes, but I haven't written a speech, so I don't know what I'm going to say in this speech. But what I've also agreed with the Minister is that he hasn't written much of a speech either, and he's not relying on civil service notes; he's going to answer what I'm saying. Some people may say it's a unique approach to a short debate; I'd like to call it 'short debate unplugged.' 'Short debate unplugged' is what I'm going to call it, although the Minister called it something else, which is not repeatable in this Chamber.

What I'd like to look at is the Bevan Foundation's 'Anchor Towns' report, which was their contribution to some of the debate, and I think was focused towards some of the debate around the Valleys taskforce, and what the Valleys taskforce is doing, although they make clear that the concepts in this report can be applied to the whole of Wales. And what I'd like to do is look at this concept of anchor towns, not as Huw, sitting next to me said, 'Irranca' towns. He said that if it had been about that, he would have stayed to listen to the debate, and I promised him I'd work that joke in. 

I want to talk about the concept of towns and anchor towns, and the difference between the two, and then focus on some of the positives and some of the difficulties, I think, with this concept, and try and find out from the Minister really what chimes with his view. What does he think the Welsh Government should pick out of this report, and subsequently do? I think anchor towns comes as an evolution of the strategic hubs, which were in the original Valleys taskforce, and the former Minister here has kindly stayed to listen to this debate; I hope he stays for the whole thing and doesn't walk out—