Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:54 pm on 22 January 2020.
But I think the problem with their proposal at this point in time is that there is no other way for people to get into the city. The trains are at capacity, the buses run far too late for work. I had massive problems this morning. The people will still travel in exactly the same numbers, they'll just pay the charge. It's a tax, as the proposals are currently set, until you get public transport radically improved and people have confidence in it.