8. Debate on the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee Report: Changes to freedom of movement after Brexit — Implications for Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:20 pm on 22 January 2020.

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Photo of Jeremy Miles Jeremy Miles Labour 5:20, 22 January 2020

We also know that there will be some sectors that emerge as being particularly vulnerable to future reductions in EU migration. These include, of course, social care, health and manufacturing, including agri-food, tourism, hospitality, retail and higher education. The impact will be particularly stark for the food manufacturing sector in Wales, where over 80 per cent of employees earn less than £30,000. Our opposition to a salary threshold, particularly one set at such a high level, has resonated with stakeholders, particularly within the business community, and we must hope that the migration advisory committee, which has been asked to look at this again, will actually come up with a lower and less damaging threshold, or no threshold at all, when it reports in a couple of weeks' time.

That report will also look at the Australian-style points-based system, again which many Members have referred to. Whilst the Prime Minister has talked warmly of introducing that sort of system, it isn't by any means clear how that would be compatible with an employer-led system rationed by a salary threshold. So, we will continue to argue for a migration policy that meets the needs of Wales, and the UK Government, we hope, will listen and act on those views. To date, there has been far too little meaningful engagement with ourselves and the other devolved administrations.

On the EU settlement scheme, I'm still very concerned that there are many people who do not know, or don't fully understand perhaps, what the scheme means for them. There are those who find the digital-only process difficult to navigate. There's confusion about getting settled status or pre-settled status, and what that means in reality for people. Even UK Ministers are confused on this point. One asserted to me only a couple of weeks ago that those with pre-settled status would be automatically upgraded to settled status after they had fulfilled the criteria of five years' residence. That is, of course, not the case.

To be clear, the Welsh Government does not support the scheme; we would much prefer a system that doesn't rely on evidence that can be difficult to provide and that provides a hard copy of the evidence, instead of simply a digital copy, of the right to live and work in our country. However, we are committed to doing all that we can to support EU nationals in Wales to successfully navigate the application process. So, as a Government, we have therefore provided additional advice and support for EU citizens here in Wales. This includes funding the EU settlement scheme advice services through Newfields Law, through Citizens Advice Cymru, and also additional funding for Settled to manage a network of volunteers providing advice and support to EU citizens. We've also recently made additional funding available from the EU transition fund, to increase our communications with EU citizens, as well as providing additional resources to local authorities to increase their involvement.

I'm committed to doing everything that we can to support EU nationals in Wales to secure their status, especially those who are vulnerable and hardest to reach. We are committed to supporting them, and we ask the UK Government as well to recognise the need to adequately publicise their scheme.

Finally, in terms of the possibility of a more spatially differentiated immigration policy, let me say the following: as the WCPP report points out, we in Wales have common cause with the rest of the UK outside London and the south east in terms of the damaging impact of that £30,000 threshold. Our first priority must be to work with others, including businesses and trade unions, who are generally sceptical of having different approaches in different parts of the UK, to ensure that a threshold is not imposed on the UK economy as a whole. But if we are unsuccessful, then we will, of course, reconsider. In the meantime, if the UK Government is serious about a points-based system, which, let me say, I don't think is really compatible with a hard threshold in terms of salary on an employer-led system, then to the point that David Melding made, we will certainly want to discuss with the UK Government and with stakeholders the potential for additional points being awarded to individuals intending to move to Wales, or indeed to other parts of the country, where migration is lower and perhaps where demographic trends are unfavourable.