8. Brexit Party Debate: Fisheries

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:50 pm on 29 January 2020.

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Photo of David Rowlands David Rowlands UKIP 6:50, 29 January 2020

Llyr Gruffydd understandably mentioned the fact that he wanted item 2 deleted, because, obviously, that goes against the principles of Plaid Cymru, and I quite understand that. He says that it's important to ensure the market for Welsh fish products remains in the EU, and I can't disagree with that at all. And there's no reason why those channels are not kept open. Llyr also mentioned that we must have a guarantee of funding for the Welsh fishing industry, and I wholeheartedly support him, and our party would support any moves that are necessary to make sure that that happens. You also mentioned, Llyr, that we need to have a voice—the Welsh need to have a voice in all the negotiations, and fully agree with you.

Mandy Jones mentioned the Pembrokeshire farmer who told of the damaging effect of non-indigenous fishing vessels to his business. And Joyce Watson, quite understandably, spoke of her reservations over what might happen, and she mentioned that the fishing industry now is only 0.04 per cent of the GDP, but the whole idea of this is that that should be expanded greatly and we should be something like 20 per cent of the GDP. And she spoke of the imports coming into this country, which is 70 per cent, fish imports coming into this country, but the truth of the matter, of course, is that they're coming from countries where their ships have actually fished those fish out of British waters and they're importing them to us.

Mark Reckless obviously has pointed out the constructive approach that we're using for this debate. Carwyn Jones says he sheds no tears for the CAP and he said that the British fishing industry has been in decline probably for centuries. He's absolutely right, but, at the time that we went into the European Union, there were still 100,000 people working in the fishing industry in the United Kingdom. And he's quite right, of course, to say that stocks will not be replenished in the short term. It will take some time to do that. But it's so very important that we now have the opportunity to make sure that those stocks are not being plundered on the scale that they have been in the past. And I point out to him, when he says, with regard to that it's not been 100 or 200 miles, that we will still be able to fish those areas around the British Isles that we have not been able to fish exclusively whilst we were in the European Union. Incidentally, British vessels were barred from fishing in the Mediterranean, and that's something most people don't know.

The Minister mentioned the fishermen's worries, and we can quite understand that—they will have worries—but we have the assurances from the British Government that they will be funding them to an extent that will make sure that they do not have any fundamental money worries. But you failed to mention that the Welsh fishing industry has been in drastic decline since we joined the EU and this is a real opportunity for us to build that industry back to where it was before. We in Brexit agree with the Minister's comment with regard to keeping all channels open to the EU. That's absolutely essential, and that's what we need to do, and I'm pretty certain that that's what will happen.

So, I thank you all for your contributions, and, Dirprwy Lywydd, we place this debate before the Chamber at a time when it will be possible to take back control of the UK fishing grounds. It is a motion that should have the support of all in this Chamber, because all it seeks to do is point out the powers we should now have to revitalise the Welsh fishing industry. Indeed, Llywydd, there is nothing in the other parties' amendments that contradicts the arguments I have put forward in this motion. I therefore urge those on the other benches to forget party politics in favour of the Welsh fishing industry and vote for this very reasonable motion.