Wales's Constitutional Status

1. Questions to the First Minister – in the Senedd on 4 February 2020.

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Photo of Mr Neil Hamilton Mr Neil Hamilton UKIP

(Translated)

7. What discussions has the First Minister had regarding Wales's constitutional status within the United Kingdom? OAQ55041

Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 2:30, 4 February 2020

I thank the Member for that. I've had a number of discussions on strengthening the United Kingdom, and Wales's place within it. Respecting devolution, as supported by the people of Wales in successive referendums, is fundamental to ensuring the continuation of the union. 

Photo of Mr Neil Hamilton Mr Neil Hamilton UKIP

Is it not clear from the questions we've had today, from all parts of the House, that devolution over the last 20 years of Labour Government has comprehensively failed, and that this is a message that has percolated through to the Welsh people, because there's been a substantial increase in support in the latest YouGov poll, both for full independence on the one hand, and also, for abolishing the Assembly on the other? 

Over 20 years, we've seen Wales sink to the bottom of the heap in terms of income in the United Kingdom amongst the home nations; we've heard the litany of failures in the NHS, which the First Minister is keen to ascribe to the United Kingdom Government, which has no responsibility for the day-to-day running of the health service. But it does give him a convenient opportunity to pass the buck, and therefore, avoid taking responsibility. The education system—we're consistently at the bottom of the Programme for International Student Assessment league tables.

He was a keen advocate of the people's vote during the referendum campaign on the EU, and we had to wait 40 years for a referendum after 1975 to reconsider the decision of the British people then. Is it not now time, after 20 years of devolution in Wales, for the Welsh people to give us their views on whether he has succeeded or failed?

Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 2:31, 4 February 2020

Well, Llywydd, the Member comes amongst us, as ever, in his prophet-of-doom personality. I disagree with him completely on most things that he has said. I've lost count of the number of times that he has shrilly urged me to respect the results of a referendum; I suggest to him that he might want to do the same thing. 

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru 2:32, 4 February 2020

(Translated)

Finally, question 8, Delyth Jewell.