6. Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal: Electric Vehicle Charge Points

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:55 pm on 5 February 2020.

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Photo of Angela Burns Angela Burns Conservative 3:55, 5 February 2020

I'm delighted to be able to support David Melding's Bill. I think that this is very neat, very timely and actually is a small Bill that we could get through the Assembly in double-quick time, because it is so highly focused.

I heard what Jenny Rathbone said, and I do agree that there are issues to be overcome, but I also believe that we will only solve the climate crisis by lots of small steps. Anybody looking to find something that's going to be a complete panacea and solve it all in one go—it's just not going to happen. This is one small step. The other items you mentioned are other small steps.

I'm particularly concerned because there are more and more people who are trying to go down the electric car route but, particularly in rural areas, finding car-charging spaces is well-nigh impossible. Although, I would like to say, I've found a great website called Zap-Map that goes around showing you all of your charging areas throughout the UK; pretty bare in Wales, it has to be said.

I'm delighted, actually, that the UK Government has taken the commitment to ban the sale of fossil fuel cars by 2035. As somebody who loves her car, lives in her car, and likes to go at the speed of light, I'm having to bite the bullet. But actually, I want my kids to grow up in a really good environment and to have a planet to live on. So, I'm converted to the whole electric car opportunity.

The other reason why I think this is such a good idea, David, is because I've long advocated the use of what we call the Merton principle in the building of new housing estates. Now, this is a prescriptive planning principle that is used, named after the London borough of Merton, which came up with it in the first place. It says that 10 per cent of all energy needs of a new housing estate should come from renewable energy sources on the site of where the houses are. So, why not expand that to put electric vehicle charging points in with all of those houses, because we're taking that and developing it one step further?

I'd also like the Government to consider, when we move forward with this Bill, looking at things such as an the interest-free electric vehicle loans that Transport Scotland currently run, which enables people to purchase electric cars. They are still pretty expensive, they have very convoluted sales and buying, you've got to have the facility to be able to put a plug-in charger at home—difficult if you live in a block of flats. But Transport Scotland have come up with a way to give people substantial sums of money on very low-cost loans over six years to get us moving into the electric car revolution, and that's what we all are. This is a small step, or a tiny drive, but I think this is a really good idea, a good piece of legislation. David Melding, I wish you well with it, and I will support it all the way.