Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:58 pm on 26 February 2020.
I'm very grateful to Huw Irranca-Davies for taking the intervention. I entirely take your point about poverty, but I know people in the region that I represent where the mother of the family is eating bread and tea at the end of the week because she has to put petrol in her car to get to her minimum-wage job in a rural area. So, let's not just assume that people who are economically disadvantaged only live in those communities where they of course need access to good public transport, because some of those families, if they're to stay in their community, will never be able to have the bus and rail network, and they will need access to affordable private travel.