6. Plaid Cymru Debate: Decarbonisation

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:27 pm on 26 February 2020.

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Photo of Andrew RT Davies Andrew RT Davies Conservative 4:27, 26 February 2020

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I move the amendments in the name of Darren Millar—1, 2 and 3—attached to the motion. I thank Plaid Cymru for bringing the debate, in particular on the day that the Wales Hydrogen Trade Association was launched here at the Senedd, a development that I welcome. I think as the opener of the debate, Rhun, highlighted there are some exciting projects going on across the United Kingdom. That's why we think that it's important that we not just work on a Wales-only basis but we look across the United Kingdom at projects that are going on and see what research funding we can bring into Wales.

In fact, it's interesting to note that, from the UK Government's own assessment of this, and in particular about creating a clean energy market, there's the potential for 2 million jobs and £170 billion-worth of annual exports by 2030. The hydrogen transport programme, for example, which has just had £23 million-worth of funding, launched in 2017, has helped to accelerate this hydrogen vehicle roll-out and more hydrogen infrastructure, including refuelling stations, ahead of the UK ban on diesel cars and petrol cars by 2030.

If we look across and up to Scotland, for example, there have been some exciting developments there: the HySpirits project in the Orkney isles of Scotland, which is exploring the possibility of converting a craft gin distillery from using liquid petroleum gas to hydrogen to make the process more environmentally friendly; and the £100 million low carbon hydrogen energy project fund to deploy low carbon hydrogen production capacity to enable greater use of hydrogen as a decarbonisation option within the energy sector.

That's why it is really important, I would suggest, that we also link in our university sector—hence amendment 3, which calls for working with the research base within the university sector here in Wales to develop those opportunities. When you talk about transport, for example, Transport for London is seeking to introduce 20 hydrogen powered double-decker buses across London. Also, Green Tomato Cars, as they're called, which is a taxi company based in London, have also introduced hydrogen-powered taxis as part of their fleet. But if you actually said to the average punter in the street about hydrogen energy and the potential for hydrogen energy in our energy mix, many would look at you and wonder what you were talking about.

So, this debate will be an important start in that conversation. The alliance launched today will help, hopefully, inform many people about the exciting chances that exist out there, should this technology become more greatly deployed. But it is vital that we link the dots to make sure that we have connection between research that is going on across the United Kingdom, that the Welsh Government develop that research capability here in Wales with some pump priming, but also work to draw down funds—the significant funds, I would suggest—that have been made available by the other Governments in the United Kingdom to make sure that this technology is a serious alternative and a viable player in decarbonising our overall economy.

Looking at it from what I've understood over recent weeks, as such, looking into this subject, the IWA did touch on this in their policy paper 'Re-energising Wales', but they did call for greater research in this sector, and innovation, in particular about the development of new low and zero-carbon projects. I appreciate that I only have three minutes—this is a half-hour debate, which, most probably, doesn't do justice to the subject. But I'll leave it there and I hope that our amendments will find support in the debate this afternoon.