Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:41 pm on 26 February 2020.
I think you'll remember in Dai Lloyd's contribution that he was very clear that devolution had achieved some good things. Many of those things were delivered by Plaid Cymru Government Ministers, some of them have been delivered by Labour Ministers or by Liberal Democrat Ministers. We're not saying it's a total wash-out, but we are saying that it hasn't reached its potential and on this, I think, we'd agree.