Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:24 pm on 26 February 2020.
Yes, Snowdon is the tallest mountain in England and Wales, absolutely—[Interruption.] The highest mountain in Wales as well. That is also true. I don't think it's the highest mountain in England, whatever Dafydd Elis-Thomas said previously.
I do take the arguments seriously. There are many countries in the world that have federal systems, and one potential attraction of a federal system is that many, if not most of them, are stable. So, rather than having this process of ever more devolution and this slippery slope, we potentially replace it with a stable system.