Llywydd, I am not going to blame the local authority at all. When I spoke with the leader, the Conservative leader, of Conwy council I had a very clear account of the enormous efforts that the local authority made over those difficult days. Nor should she. I really think it is really wrong of her to criticise NRW when, everywhere I have gone in Wales, the people who work for NRW carried out heroic work, weekend after weekend, to protect people and homes from the onset of that flooding. To hear her criticise those people who were out there saving lives, saving property, from the comfort of her seat in this Assembly—it really doesn't do her any credit.

When I was in Conwy speaking to residents, they talked to me about their enormous gratitude to the workers of NRW who stood there in that rain and in that flood manually clearing drains and clearing defences to make sure that homes were not flooded. I understand, of course I understand, that people whose homes and properties have been affected are angry about that, and want something to be done better in the future. It doesn't serve them at all just to try and attach that anger to blaming an organisation that did everything it could to defend them and their properties. There will be inquiries, of course. It is the statutory responsibility of the local authority, under the 2010 Act, now to carry out an investigation into what happened in Llanrwst and elsewhere. I spoke to the leader of the council about that and I know that they will take that very seriously. They appear to have a good deal more balanced idea of what went wrong and what needs to be done than the Member who represents them here appears to have.