6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Looked-after Children

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:23 pm on 4 March 2020.

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Photo of Julie Morgan Julie Morgan Labour 5:23, 4 March 2020

Absolutely. I think that's a very important point—the children must be at the centre of this—and I value the work that the Public Accounts Committee did on that issue.

Local authorities are under a statutory duty to assess the need for adoption support services for individual adoptive families, including making an assessment for financial support to meet the particular needs of children. We have an all-Wales policy that sets the criteria and circumstances within which an adoption allowance can be paid, the assessment and review process, and what the support can cover.

As a Government, we've placed a firm focus on positive parenting and recognise the value of parenting support. Our parenting expert action group is looking at how parenting support can be delivered most effectively across Wales. And I don't want to pre-empt the outcome of their work, but want to emphasise that while parenting support, as part of a course, has its place, other approaches are available and effective in different circumstances.

In light of what I've just explained, I will support the original motion, but I won't support Siân Gwenllian's amendment because I don't accept the words about the targets. But I thank her for her considered opinions and for drawing attention to the Thomas review.

And in relation to the EU settled status scheme—and Rhianon also mentioned this—there are 115 eligible children in Wales, and we're working with the Home Office, the local authorities, ADSS Cymru and the WLGA to support the application process for these children. And we're in regular contact with the local authorities about this matter.

In terms of Neil McEvoy's amendments, obviously, in all the work we're doing with children, their safety has to be the predominant determinant of what we do. But contact with parents is, indeed, very important, and a key part of reunifying families after a child has had some time in care, along with ongoing support. So, I will support that amendment. I agree about the importance of advocates, and these arrangements are already in law and guidance, so I will also support that.

However, I won't support the other amendments for reasons I will explain. I too am concerned that care leavers who become parents may be at risk of discrimination. We want local authorities to shift their approach to better prevention, and this issue is part of that agenda. The Reflect programme we fund, which has already been mentioned, is providing much-needed support to parents, and we're already expecting a lot from local authorities, so we don't want to add a major case file audit to their workload.

Rebalancing the social care sector to support the growth of local authority fostering, residential care and reduce reliance on the private sector is Government policy. At the current time, however, we do need some good-quality private provision. So, I can't agree with the wording of that amendment, because we do have children in that provision at the moment, so we can't agree the wording of that amendment.

And on the complaints process, the Wales regulations 2014 and guidance make provision for an independent investigator who must be neither a member nor officer of the local authority. So, I can't support that amendment.

I am aware that I need to come to the end of my remarks, and there were a lot more issues I think that we could have gone into. I know that very important points were made about education, but I will stress the point in response to Oscar that we do have a pupil development grant that is specifically geared to children in care, as well as some other children. So, I think that's an important point to make.

But I think, finally, I'd like to end, as Janet Finch-Saunders did, on a positive note, and I know David Rowlands mentioned the Roots Foundation in Swansea. I visited the Roots Foundation, and I think that it's excellent work that they are doing there. I think we have to say that for many children, being in care is in their best interest and provides stability and security, as responses to the Bright Spots survey have shown. I have met care leavers who are doing admirably well, achieving academically and successfully living independent, fulfilled lives. So, I think it's important to finish on that positive note.