Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:25 pm on 4 March 2020.
Well, I was just going to say that I can partly answer that for you, because it's deemed, to be frank, second-class citizenship, because there is no other alternative. There's nothing in England that they can go to, and I've met some great people who are very well aware that the settings are not appropriate, like the ones you've just mentioned, but they have no other alternative, because we have nothing in Wales and there's nothing else in England, apart from places even further and further away. And it's a shame because we wouldn't treat people with cancer or heart conditions in the way that we treat people with mental health issues.