I'll certainly clarify in this way: I acknowledge that the NHS is a complex machine within which there are many layers of management. The shame, in a way, is that we are here at Stage 3, having proposed this at Stage 2, and having put this on the table at a point where Welsh Government should, and could, have engaged with it in a way, using the might of the Government machine, they would have been able to identify clearly how to implement this kind of change. But I don't think that that detracts from what we are trying to achieve here.