6. & 7. The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (Wales) Regulations 2020 and The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2020

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:11 pm on 29 April 2020.

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Photo of Vaughan Gething Vaughan Gething Labour 6:11, 29 April 2020

Thank you, Llywydd. Thank you to the Members who have contributed to the debate. Perhaps it's worth setting out that we have taken unprecedented steps to protect public health from the risk of coronavirus, and even though we have been successful in preventing a much wider and more catastrophic spread of coronavirus, this is still not over and it is certainly not trivial, with more than 1,000 confirmed deaths across Wales. And we know there will be more to come. But the approach we have taken with the rules we have set out and the behaviour of the public has undoubtedly helped to save lives, and I'm tremendously grateful still not just to our front-line staff, but to members of the public who have followed the rules and made a real difference.

As we know, the two sets of regulations debated today were introduced under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984, under emergency procedures. Rather than the criticism made by the Brexit Party, I think it's a good thing that Governments of the United Kingdom, the four Governments, have shared information and then made choices for the country and people that we are responsible for within each of the four respective Governments. I don't accept the out-of-step and, in my view, misguided view from the Brexit Party that we should simply do what England has done, and we're certainly not dealing with an ideological lodestar. We're looking at the purpose and the proportionality of the regulations we have in place and the purpose of them. 

The principal regulations came into force on 26 March, and those brought in the view about people only leaving home for limited purposes, including essential shopping, exercise once a day, any medical need or to provide care or help to a vulnerable person, and travelling to and from work if necessary. To deal with Angela Burns's point, the police cannot require people to leave homes when they are in residence. It's a matter we're still talking through with both the police and local government about the issue, and I don't want to trivialise it, of people in second homes. That's an issue we still discuss because of the ongoing review of the regulations. But the main purpose of the principal regulations is to minimise the extent to which people leave their homes during this continuing emergency period to help contain coronavirus, to minimise the burden on health services and to save more lives. So, unjustified and unnecessary journeys are prohibited. 

The amendment regulations that came into force on 7 April made a number of important changes, including the social distancing measures in places of work. And, actually, we've been followed by other parts of the United Kingdom, having introduced those rules. They were made to both protect individual health and minimise the risk of transmission in the workplace. We also made clear in those regulations that businesses can continue to provide services online or by telephone or post.

Llywydd, it remains my view and the Government's view that these are sensible restrictions introduced to deal with a national health emergency. This is still a once-in-a-century event, and there will be many more difficult days ahead of us. We are constantly reviewing the requirements and talking to stakeholders to see what amendments need to be made. And, in some areas, that may well mean strengthening or changing legislative requirements, and that may well mean that Wales goes first or in a different direction to other parts of the United Kingdom, because we have to respond to the responsibilities we continue to have, and we cannot contract out of for the people of Wales. In other areas, they may be eased, where it is safe to do so. 

Now, as Members will be aware, we further amended the principal regulations last Friday, as part of the ongoing review process. Those regulations make a number of revisions, including permitting exercise more than once a day because of a particular health condition or disability, and making it clear that visiting a cemetery or other burial ground to pay respects to a deceased person is a reasonable excuse for leaving where you live. And those amending regulations will come before the Senedd shortly.

I just want to deal with some of the challenge about the collective approach that we have, and the central messages remain the same: anyone can get the virus, anyone can spread it, and we do still need to continue to stay at home, protect the NHS and to save lives. I think the tone of some of Mr Reckless's contribution was not as helpful as I would have wished it to be in reinforcing that message, because we are seeing the effects of those measures and are taking the steps needed to help our NHS to cope, to keep essential services running and to protect the most vulnerable, but there's still a long way to go. So, we are reviewing the measures and making changes to respond to the challenges being faced in parts of the country and by families throughout Wales.

The regulations implemented in Wales are essential on the basis of the clinical and scientific advice to respond to this situation. The measures are temporary and proportionate to the threat that we face, and they will only be in place for as long as they are required. They're continuously reviewed, with advice on the balance of risk in this public health emergency, and there is a formal 21-day review period looking at the seven tests published by the First Minister last Friday to determine the necessity for the regulations to continue. And in my view, we're in a better position in Wales for having been more open and provided more detail about those tests for the continuance of these regulations, and the possible paths through lockdown. Nobody should expect that the restrictions will end for the bank holiday weekend; they will not. The path out of lockdown will be phased and cautious.

So, I ask the Senedd to support these regulations and agree that they are necessary for ensuring the protection of the citizens of Wales we are responsible for. They will, as I've said, be kept under review and removed or amended as soon as it is safe for us to do so.