Part of 5. Topical Questions – in the Senedd at 3:11 pm on 24 June 2020.
Diolch, Llywydd, and thank you, Minister, as well. When the phased reopening of schools was announced, I asked why it was easier for unions to agree an extra week in July rather than coming back at the end of August, and at that time no-one was able to answer that question. It looks now as if no answer was genuinely sought. While I've got no doubt that some unions perhaps aren't particularly interested in encouraging their members back before September, Siân Gwenllian is quite right—policy is a matter for you, and you have every right to proceed even if you can't take everybody with you. You do need to take some people with you, though, and it's pretty clear that school leaders had taken you at your word and had been preparing for a four-week return. You'll know that staff and families and even directors of education have been rightly angered and frustrated by what are now these dashed expectations.
You're right—there are staff and families who've already gone the extra mile and deserve our unconditional thanks, but who recognise, I think, as you do, that children's well-being for checking in, catching up and preparing was vital. I don't remember local authorities, at that time, demurring from your views, beyond operational worries about things like transport, hygiene and distancing.
So, my first question is: when did directors of education and teachers in particular know that this was optional, because there was nothing in your original announcement to suggest that this was the original plan? Can you also tell us, by 3 June, when you made your announcement, did trade unions tell you before that date that they would discourage members from agreeing to the fourth week? Did councils tell you before that date that they would direct school leaders not to open a fourth week? And did they accept your argument that the well-being of children was best served by a four-week return? Can you tell us about any subsequent conversations with the unions? We're still all very keen to know why so many councils have failed to back you. And then, finally, can you confirm that, should any school leader have the staff and safety measures in place for a fourth week, they can open their school regardless of the view of the council? What is the status of a council direction and can you overrule that in the case of individual and even all schools? Thank you.