Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:35 pm on 15 July 2020.
Okay. Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. I'm very pleased to take part in this debate today, and it's really good to see that we've got to this stage with such an important campaign as 20's Plenty, and I would like to join Lee Waters in paying tribute to Rod King, who's championed the cause so extensively and widely for so long, and also, of course, thank Phil Jones and the taskforce, and to thank Lee Waters himself, because Lee has undoubtedly given fresh and added impetus to this campaign and these proposals as Minister, so thank you very much for that, Lee.
As others, my interest in the campaign firstly came from local communities who were campaigning for those speed limits, and that certainly brought home to me the deprivation factors involved, because there were campaigners on roads in local council estates where there had been, sadly, fatalities involving children, where there were roads through the estates with cars parked on both sides—there still are—children playing, and it's so easy, of course, for a child to chase a ball into the road from between parked cars, and, if a car is doing any considerable speed at all, it's very difficult to stop in time.
So, I really do think that, essentially, this is a road safety campaign, and it stands on its own merits in that regard. But there are also other very important benefits from a default 20 mph speed limit in our residential areas, and I think a lot of that is about reclaiming the streets, as others have said. It's about allowing children to go out and play freely and parents to feel confident in allowing children to do that; it's about older people feeling more comfortable walking around their local areas, in terms of their road safety; it's about active travel, allowing walking and scooting and cycling, whether it's to school or work or local shops, and people feeling more comfortable, safe and secure in doing that themselves or allowing their children to do it.
So, the benefits of this policy I think are very widespread: it's about better community life, it's about people getting to know people who live around them to a greater extent. We've seen some of that impact through the pandemic and I think it's something that could be further done, fostered, also through a 20's Plenty policy.
People have referred to enforcement, Llywydd, and I think that, hopefully, in the longer term, it will become self-enforcing to some extent, as other similar measures have been, but, certainly in the short term, there will be a need to make sure the police and others are enforcing this policy properly, and that will have resource implications. But I think it's also about a marketing, a communications and awareness-raising campaign. We do need a strong strategy on that initially, I think, to make sure that everybody is aware of the change, the reasons for it, and, hopefully, they will be supportive of it. But we do need to get key messages across if we are going to have that support and backing.
I don't know whether Lee might be able to say a little bit more about the rolling out of pilots, in terms of the basis on which that would take place—which local authority areas and which areas within local authorities will see those initial pilots.
I'd also like to support what Russell George and others said about rural areas, because we also have a very strong campaign around the A48 dual carriageway in Newport in terms of villages and village roads off the A48, following, again, a fatal accident, and a man, Julian Smith, who sadly lost his daughter in an accident, is leading a very strong local campaign and he's pointing out very strongly that having national speed limits on roads through villages doesn't make any sense at all when you have families living there. Sixty miles per hour is just totally excessive and it does seem to be very difficult to get necessary change. There are lower limits obviously in Wales on some of these village roads, but sadly there are many that are still subject to the national speed limit, and it does seem very difficult to get lower speeds on those roads.
So, I'm very grateful, Llywydd, for the opportunity to speak in this debate today. I think 20's Plenty is a very progressive policy. I think having that default 20 mph limit on our residential roads right across Wales will put our country in a very positive light, and deliver real benefits for our communities.