1. Statement by the First Minister: Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 1:53 pm on 5 August 2020.

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Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 1:53, 5 August 2020

Well, Llywydd, neither he nor I know whether that is true, and never will we be able to. It's a very unhelpful speculation, it seems to me. It is true that we have seen excess deaths in Wales over the coronavirus period. I'm very pleased to say that deaths in Wales over recent weeks are below the five-year average, so we're now in much calmer water as far as that is concerned. Why the United Kingdom has experienced higher levels of excess deaths than other European countries will be the matter of research, I'm sure, in the future. The fact that Wales has a lower rate of excess deaths than either England or Scotland also needs to be understood better. On the surface, you would think that was counterfactual. We have an older, sicker, poorer population than across our border, and our excess death figures normally reflect the nature of that population. The fact that the opposite has happened during the coronavirus crisis will need some research to understand how that was achieved, and it's no comfort in any case to those families who have lost loved ones during the pandemic. 

The Member asks why things were not done in March and April in the way advocated by his health spokesperson. Well, the truth is that the health service was flat out dealing with the peak of the coronavirus crisis, with many hundreds of people coming through hospital doors requiring—already requiring—critical care beds and provisions. And while there were steps being taken to improve prevention—and certainly in the autumn we will know more about the way in which early intervention can have a positive impact on the progress of this disease—at that point in the curve of the pandemic, the focus of our system was on not being overwhelmed by the demand that was already generated by the circulation of the disease.

We've now been able to confirm funding for a whole range of things that we will be able to do during the rest of this year following confirmation from the UK Treasury of the money that will be available to Wales. As soon as we were able to confirm those figures, we published detail of how that money will be used. And, as the Member says, we will be able to do more in providing primary care with the pulse devices that they will need to measure oxygen in people's blood—an early and sometimes not-easy-to-detect indication that coronavirus is taking place.