4. Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services: Update on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:48 pm on 22 September 2020.

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Photo of Vaughan Gething Vaughan Gething Labour 3:48, 22 September 2020

Thank you for the questions. On your final point, I recognise that there is a need to provide as much clarity as quickly as possible on what the restrictions mean for people. Most people want to follow the rules, and so it's about how we help them to do so. That's got to be balanced against the speed of decision making that is necessary to keep people safe. But, it's a point well made, and in this instance, it has been helpful that there are essentially the same restrictions as are already in place within Rhondda Cynon Taf now across the six relevant local authorities in south Wales.

On the challenge about house parties, it's a real danger and a real concern. It's part of the rationale for keeping pubs and the hospitality trade open. There's an environment where people can drink together, where they enjoy doing that together, but also, it's an environment that is regulated and there's a line of sight. Our bigger concern is indoor contact in people's private homes. That's been the largest area of spread and infection rates rising. So, what we definitely don't want to see is house parties increasing. If you think you're safer drinking in your home with six or seven friends you don't live with, actually, you're at much greater risk than being in a pub where you have to be socially distanced. So, there's a real challenge in what we do and the messaging around hospitality, why it's being kept open, and the challenge of just substituting that for drinking and buying alcohol from an off-licence. We're looking at off-licences as a possible restriction, together with other Governments in the UK.

On what we need to see to see the current local restrictions removed, we'll be looking in particular at a reduction in the case rate and seeing the trends going in the right direction, seeing a sustained fall in those to get below our action levels. We're also going to be looking at the positivity rates, how many people in every 100 test positive. That will tell us a lot about the state of community transmission. And we'll also be looking at the intelligence we get from our test, trace and protect service about new clusters, whether we have unexplained clusters—that's again a signal that community transmission is taking place—but also evidence of mixing and how people are acquiring coronavirus in the first place. So, it'll be a range of harder data measures and that softer intelligence on what's happening in terms of behaviour within the community.

But if we're making any choices about dropping a level down, we'll have to be clear about why we're doing that and what that then means. What I don't want is people to lose sight of the collective discipline we need to rediscover on respecting and following social distancing in particular.