Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:41 pm on 22 September 2020.
Thank you very much. It is certainly the case that COVID-19 has taken a terrible toll on women's position in the workplace, because they've been targeted by employers as being the first out the door if they're needing to make redundancies. So, we've got some catch up to do on ensuring that we have an inclusive workforce, but also in ensuring that all children have the opportunity of a quality early years education and play. So, your figures of a 30 per cent reduction possibly indicate people who have lost their jobs and therefore can't afford childcare any longer, but also, obviously, the anxiety that some parents may feel about placing their children in early years education.
I fully acknowledge the wonderful work that's being done by childcare providers, certainly across my constituency—both private, public and voluntary sector—but it is a fragile sector, as you say, and we know from study after study that the most effective strategy for closing the gap in attainment is that very high-quality, comprehensive education and play that you can get. We are a long way off countries like France and Germany. Flying Start for two-year-olds has been an excellent initiative, but how are we going to get more nurseries in areas of deprivation where the private sector is very unlikely to go? They are much more likely to be cherry picking areas of our communities where there are many more people who are able to pay. I appreciate all the work you're doing, but it seems to me we have a very considerable challenge still to get where we want to be. So, I wondered if you could tell us how you're going to ensure that everybody has the opportunity to put their child into quality childcare and education, not just those with the resources to pay for it.